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"So what do you do?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:12 pm
by Stephen Whiteside
A writer complained to me recently that he finds it really hard in social situations when he is asked "So what do you do?"

His problem was that his work was not his passion - his writing was his passion, but it did not earn him a living. He felt he felt it was his writing, not his work, that defined him as a human being.

Of course, I could relate to this easily. So many times over the years I've been placed in the same position, often having long conversations with strangers about my work as a doctor when all I really wanted to talk about was poetry. I've got much better at it in recent years and will often simply come out bluntly and say, "I work as a doctor, but I am also a poet." That's usually enough to get the conversation going where I want it to go.

Having a book coming out soon makes it much easier, because I can now talk immediately about that, which makes the whole notion of writing poetry somehow much more legitimate - perhaps there's a buck in it after all. I also feel an obligation to sell as many books as possible, so every new social encounter is now also seen through the prism of a potential book sale - not an ideal way to approach all new social encounters, granted, but, hey, it's not a perfect world.

I do nevertheless wonder if I could somehow lead a revolution and, instead of asking "What do you do?" as a introductory gambit in casual social situations, instead ask, "So, what is your passion?" I imagine that for every genuine, revealing response, I would get at least ten people thinking I was some kind of a nutter.

What puzzles me as much as anything is how many people just don't have a passion in their lives. It must be a terrible way to live.

Sometimes, as a doctor, I will be confronted with a patient who appears to be lacking in direction. Increasingly, as a strategy, I've been inclined to 'cut to the chase' by asking "So what were your dreams as a child?" The theory behind a question like this is that somehow this person has forgotten, or given up on, their dream, and if I can only help to remind them of it, all will be well. Sadly, it is never that simple. So often they look at me blankly when I ask them that. Either they've completely forgotten their dreams, or they never had any to begin with.

I guess that's partly why I'm drawn so much to writing for children. If we can't be inspired by life as children, what chance do we have of being inspired as adults? Of course, you don't have to be a parent to play a role in the nurturing of children. It is the responsibility of all adults, surely, to light fires in the hearts of children.

I would like to think the day will eventually come when it will be quite reasonable to ask a stranger "What is your passion in life?" rather than "What do you do?", but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:52 pm
by Maureen K Clifford
Oh Stephen - be true to yourself - it is what makes you the interesting person you are and if writing is your passion and something you love then be proud of it - Who cares what other people might think. One of the beauties of getting older is that we no longer have to care about things like that. Our lifes journey has given us the experience that has made us who we are today. If someone else doesn't get that, why should that be your problem? Why should you feel the need to downplay it to fit into somebody elses preconceived idea? You are who you are and the person you are is special and unique :D

And do ask people what their passion in life is - they have probably never had anyone care enough to ask that question before - by asking you will quite likely make them feel special as well, because someone has cared enough and is interested enough to want to know what it is that really rows their boat.

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:59 am
by Bob Pacey
I'm passionate about a lot of things Stephen and they all define a bit of who I am. What I do to make a living is part of that and rightly so as I'm happy in my current position.

When I was young all I wanted to do was work with animals and nature as in a park ranger or such but life took me in another direction and I have thoroughly enjoyed my years dealing with people as a Supermarket Manager/ Supervisor and Service Advisor / Supervisor in a car dealership mainly because they were dealing with people and it was through the travel associated with the supermarkets that aroused my love of the bush.

I was asked the other day what my job is in the park and I replied " Making sure that everyone else has a great holiday "
and looking after kids on a waterslide is almost the same as a Park Ranger anyway :lol: :lol: :lol:

I never thought that I should be defined by any one of the things that I do or have done in the past but I will admit that it is nice when you meet someone and they say " Oh you are the poet " .

Your profession is a little harder to get around if you want to get the conversation going towards poetry perhaps a simple
" I'm a doctor but my real love is poetry " would suffice ?

Cheers Bob

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:33 am
by Stephen Whiteside
Thank you Maureen and Bob. Yes, I'm certainly getting better at it and, I agree, it does get easier as you get older.

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:57 am
by warooa
And can just imagine Dr Poet breaking out into song . . .

Oh I’d rather talk of couplets and discuss alliteration
and couldn’t give a shit about your case of constipation.
I’ll bind you up with worthy words of consonants and vowels,
please spare me all your problems with your colon and your bowels.

My attitude towards your ailments may come as a shock,
but I’d rather diagnose and fix a case of writers block.
I’m bored with aches and pains, and what their cures and causes are,
I’d rather cure a case of severe onomatopoeia.

I’ll tackle aching assonance or hurt hyperbole,
or painful paradox then I’m the Doc that you should see.
An ill internal rhyme or just a stanza that wont scan
A maladay of metaphor - come see me I’m your man.

okay I'll stop now . . . this may have potential (to get very stupid)

I agree with what you say Stephen. Looking forward to the book.

Marty

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:04 am
by Stephen Whiteside
Thanks, Marty. It's not quite that bad! What I like about medical practice is getting to know people. I don't find the intellectual/academic aspect particularly interesting, though.

Thanks, Matt - very perceptive, and good advice!

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:06 am
by Vic Jefferies
Love the poem Marty and pleased to see you rhymed hyperbole absolutely correctly! Julia Gillard had a problem with that word as I remember.
I think that often when people ask, "What do you do?" they are attempting to establish their own status.

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:20 am
by Stephen Whiteside
I think you are probably right, Vic. Having said that, I know I am also guilty!

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:49 pm
by Vic Jefferies
Now,when I am asked what do I do, I usually reply that I am retired. This is seldom enough information and people then go on to ask what I am retired from or "Yes, but what did you do?" is the inevitable follow up question.
It seems that what I do or did is very important to them. I believe this is because people want to pigeon hole other people or be sure that they are talking to someone worthy of speaking to or heaven forbid not someone superior in someway to themselves.
A very similar question commonly asked is, "Where are you from?"

Re: "So what do you do?"

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:31 pm
by Ron
Some very good advice there Stephen, in essence it's not what you do but who you are!
I am coming up to forty nine years of laying bricks and when people have asked me 'what I do' I have quite often replied that 'I am an artist in burnt clay'! Over the years I have had some very differing, interesting observations of peoples reactions.
I do wonder though with the amount of quality poems that you turn out, how do you find time for any Doctorin'!

Great poem Marty !

Just a thought, Marty would make a great receptionist for you Stephen, Just the man for the job! have you thought of that being a possibility! ;)
Ron