ABPA - Australian Bush Poets Association

Hi Everybody,
Has anyone got a rhyming dictionary. If so are 'Rise & Tantalize' a rhyme ? (sounds ok)
As I have said before I must get one of my own if I can ever find one.

Cheers Terry

Martys suggestion sounds goods to me and I reckon they are a rhyme I would certainly use them. Tantalize has 3 syllablles as has analyse - you could also perhaps use soft breasts rise if writing something hot and steamy although I am not good on the stress thingys - just go by how it sounds.

Peely or Zondrae would know for sure, but it works for me.

Now you have totally tantalized my thoughts Terry - is this in relation to that poem you are going to do about Paraburdoo?? .

We can all fantasise. I feel a poemm coming on...

Sounds good to me Terry. I can't see a problem with it but then I'm often wrong...

It's a bit hard taking these things in isolation Terry. It would be better to consider the whole context ;that is the entire line and metre to see how the rhyme was intended to fit with the other words.
I think that the practice has grown that ise and ize endings are optional for the same word, so ize and ise of different words could make a rhyme in many instances.
In other words you could use tantalise and ...rise as a rhyming pair. Maybe, I'll probably be corrected.

I have two rhyming dictionaries.
" Nothing Rhymes with Orange " by Bessie Redfield. Easy to look up alphabetically sorted, rhyming vowel endings.

"The Poets Manual and Rhyming Dictionary" by Francis Stillman. First half of the book has a very good survey of rhyming and metre and poetic forms. The rhyming dictionary part is a bit complex divided into feminine and masculine rhymes as well as single double and triple rhymes.

and.

I have two at my fingertips and another on line one.

The one I use most often is The Penguin pocket Rhyming Dictionary.
the one with " the Poets Craft Book" in the front is by Clement wood.

The words you have used for example are a rhyme but if the poem were for a competition I would try hard to have a better match by playing with the words. Judges like a three syllable word to be rhymed with another three syllable word (with only the first syllable being different) I think.

Thanks Everybody,

I feel much the same as the general opinion here, and I agree with you Zondrae
I'd prefer a rhyme I don't have to question, it was just that in this case I quite like
the use of 'Tantalize', but I'm still working on it

Here is the stanza (still a work in progress)

'The ashes have been coaxed to life - the billy’s boiled - I call my wife,
and soon the smell of toasted bread wafts through our camp to tantalize.
We huddle by the glowing coals and gulp down muesli from our bowls,
then watch the last stars fade away before the sun begins to rise'.

Maureen,
No this is not from a Parabudoo poem, but I will try to write something for that

Cheers and thanks again - Terry

Terry would you feel better about it if you used the spelling tantalise?

G'day Terry

No problem at all with that pair. I have the second rhyming dictionary that Neville mentioned and that pair is listed together in there as a masculine (single syllable) rhyme.

I have always understood rhyme to be more about the phonetics rather than the spelling. As long as the two endings are phonetically the same and carry the same stresses, they should be rhymes.

Regards


John Peel

Thanks John,
I felt the same way, but was interested in other opinions. I would be a little more concerned if the rhymes were close together, but there is an internal rhyme between them and this seems to make it slightly more acceptable to me for some reason.

Cheers and thanks - Terry

you could also perhaps use soft breasts rise if writing something hot and steamy

MAUREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!