Beyond Competitions or, Is that all there is?

Vic Jefferies · Post by **Vic Jefferies** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:00 am

Manfred you are going from bad to worse. It aint a bad song and I must admit I enjoy the chorus but there are barely any lines that rhyme. It is worse than free verse from a technical point of view because it is full of bad rhymes, appalling lyrics and every possible cliche.
I think Ian Mudie's poem is a total work of art compared to this song.

Post by **manfredvijars** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:02 pm

Tell that to the masses next Australia Day ... besides, it's a lyric and you don't need perfect rhyme in a lyric; at least in this one, nobody needs to get killed to prove they're Australian ...

Post by **warooa** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:48 pm

Agree with Manfred, partial rhymes are the norm for song lyrics. Agree with Vic - ordinary song with way too much tired cliche.

Mudies is different - I'd never read it before, I'll sit on it and go back.

Marty

Vic Jefferies · Post by **Vic Jefferies** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:21 pm

Why don't you need perfect rhyme in a lyric? Of course you do , in fact it used to be frowned on in Tin Pan Alley to produce a song with bad rhyme. Now we are lucky if we get a song with more than four lines that are mindlessly repeated and no MUSIC only electronically produced noise!
One of the most recorded and performed songs in the world, Moonlight in Vermont, is one of the few songs, that I know of, that is intentionally written without rhyme and it remains a beautiful song.

Vic Jefferies · Post by **Vic Jefferies** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:25 pm

Good on you Marty. I am sure you will enjoy the poem and probably find some references in it to our folk lore and history that will make you think. Even now there are a couple of things in it I am not to sure about. Should mention that Ian Mudie wrote most of his poetry with rhyme and metre.

Bob Pacey · Post by **Bob Pacey** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:01 pm

You must be reading it wrong Vic I can see heaps of rhymes and slight rhymes but it flows and rambles along.

Good enough for me .

Bob

Vic Jefferies · Post by **Vic Jefferies** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:48 pm

Bob, if you are talking about Moonlight in Vermont there are no rhymes and to make it even better the first two lines of each verse are haiku!

Post by **manfredvijars** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:10 pm

Gezuntheit Vic ...

Bob Pacey · Post by **Bob Pacey** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:38 am

Ptooooooo Haiku.

no The song I am Australian that Manny posted.

Bob

Stephen Whiteside · Post by **Stephen Whiteside** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:27 am

Gesundheit, Manny.

ABPA - Australian Bush Poets Association

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